Thanks, Patti. A tip for everyone else: if you double click on Patti's chart it zooms in so you can read everything. Patrick & Ellen Ryan also had a son Denis (I think that's the name) who emigrated to Perth, Australia. His sons were Dan & Dermot, both of whom visited NY. I don't if they had any sisters and I've forgotten anything I might have known about their kids. Grandma will probably remember